Sunday, December 5, 2010

Fighting Against the Darkness

     Ok, so I'm a little very wound up right now.  In general, when someone starts being all negative and wanting to bring me down, I'm pretty good at ignoring it.  Sometimes I take the time to point out the fact that they're being negative and/or mean, or whatever, but at that point if they continue, I am usually able to shrug it off and remove myself from the situation.  But not with Jarrett.  Maybe it's because I know he knows better, maybe it's because I resent the fact that he can act this way while claiming to worship Jesus Christ, who taught peace, love, compassion, and forgiveness, I don't know.  Somehow, though, he always manages to drag me into his negativity.  I was bawling my fucking eyes out today b/c of the things he was saying to Alex and I on Facebook.  It was the dumbest thing, b/c it all started over this picture I'd tagged him in of a 20 sided die like those used in the role-playing game Dungeons and Dragons, which he, Alex, and I, along with some other friends, all used to play together.  It is easier to just copy/paste than to give you a drawn out play by play, so here is the conversation that ensued:

    • Jarrett Toth looks improperly drawn.
      Friday at 10:54pm · 

    • Cheryl Finch hehe
      Friday at 11:02pm · 

    • Jarrett Toth but I appreciate the sentiment. : )
      Yesterday at 12:01am · 

    • Jarrett Toth and its just floating in air is all. and what are you laughing at cheri, your improperly drawn too.
      Yesterday at 12:01am · 

    • Jarrett Toth or maybe your just floating as well.
      Yesterday at 12:02am · 

    • Jarrett Toth innate elvin ability...
      Yesterday at 3:24am · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes You're such a pooper...can't even laugh at a silly joke without getting all.....*puts his nose in the air* "Welllllllll....its not exactly right"...........JUST LAUGH DAMMIT!
      Yesterday at 11:39am · 

    • Cheryl Finch it was a chuckle because i appreciated the sentiment ya pooper!
      Yesterday at 12:17pm · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes I was talking to his majesty.
      Yesterday at 12:18pm · 

    • Cheryl Finch but what else should we expect from a snooty grey elf
      Yesterday at 12:19pm ·  ·  2 people

    • Cheryl Finch yeah i know, so was i lol
      Yesterday at 12:22pm · 

    • Rene Hawes Lol, thanks to those of you who saw the point...I was just thinking about everyone in D&D and how much fun it CAN be...when people aren't picking everything apart and can actually enjoy the intended spirit of things...
      20 hours ago ·  ·  1 person

    • Jarrett Toth its not snooty. its called awareness. D&D is only as good as its DM and players. picking things apart is the fun, otherwise its just story telling and rolling dice.
      20 hours ago · 

    • Chris Bayne but some people would rather pick it apart post game and tell there own story through game play.
      19 hours ago ·  ·  1 person

    • Jarrett Toth 
      I prefer actual time, the reason for the dice is to give you a probable limit to called actions. The story, is your character acting, the rolls determine success. Also, in a compelling and relevant story, there must be a semi attention paid to whats being done, or you end up with +10 dunce caps on. trying to cast your imagination into the game is the basis of plot construction, a good DM has a set of rules, hence the books, these are read through and at the DMs sole discretion are applicable. The character is to choose actions, roll initiative, and break down sequences, the success and creativity of these adds points to the character.

      19 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth most of all it requires dedicated people who get allong and want to play. when D&D turns into banter and ketchup there's no point anymore.
      19 hours ago · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes When someone turns it into a pain in my ass, theres no point anymore.
      19 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth ‎*shrugs, like i said.
      19 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth I'd rather just be friends. since I prefer a higher caliber of game play.
      19 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth ‎*rolls floating dice with mind. 2..... dangit!
      19 hours ago · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes Jeezus you're such an RP snob. Playing a game with so many rules it no longer is fun negates the point of playing a game in the first place.
      19 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth to the contrary, the structure provides justice and stability as well as keeps things balanced.
      19 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth critical for multi character parties that want to build as a unit.
      19 hours ago · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes Well if you want a higher caliber of game play then go play with Ian and Leon.......OOOPS! Guess you can't since your narrow minded religion caused them to get rid of ALL their D&D books. OH WELL!!! Guess you won't have any need to play D&D since all the rules YOU'LL ever need come from the Bible...The Bible that apparently says you shouldn't even be playing in the first place...have fun with that!
      19 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth Leon was the best DM a creative person could ask for, and Ian and Dan both set the standard for my expectations, and I look back on those memories fondly, because it was through them that I was able to find Christ. Yes, the books are away, and yes I prefer today to apply my critical mind to the pages of the lord then bicker over casting time in the heat of battle, I would rather not overlook the small things on any level, in either "realm", and I like to play with those of like minded, as the picture reads : how I roll.
      19 hours ago · 

    • Rene Hawes Well, excuse the fuck out of me for trying to include you in something I'd hoped you would enjoy, Jarrett. Next time I'll know better than to bother. Also, I would appreciate if you would refrain from insulting my friends on my page in the future.*insert sarcasm* Really enjoying the "very Christian" behavior on your part.
      18 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth huh?
      17 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth what are you including me in, because I wan unaware. What are you bothering about what and what friends are you talking about. you make no sense.
      17 hours ago · 

    • Rene Hawes I was TRYING to tag people in this photo that would be amused and appreciate that D&D is supposed to be about having fun together, if you seriously weren't aware that this was what I was trying to include you in then you further prove my point that I should not have tagged you. And I'm talking about you being directly rude and mean to Cheryl and your subtle little jabs at everyone's ability to play D&D which should be about HAVING FUN! If you can't make sense of that then I can't help you.
      17 hours ago ·  ·  1 person

    • Jarrett Toth don't bother trying, thanks for the loaded dice. you don't hafta defend cheri from me, she is a big girl. I love D&D, always will.
      17 hours ago · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes Seriously, thanks for putting down my abilities as a DM, thanks for insulting everyone who played and had a good time. Didn't you wonder why we stopped playing? No one wanted to play because of your rule hungry forced monarchy upon all of us, me included. You dont play MY game and tell ME how to run it. So in the future if I do choose to start a game YOU wont be invited. Because thats how YOU roll.
      16 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth 
      take insult if you want, I didn't put you down, just like Leons style best. and no, I must apologize for bringing the idea to the table, collecting the books, organizing, and trying to get lazy halfwits to function together, knowing nothing but the usual would take place. I am sorry you saw fervent motivation as an insult, or avid teaching as forced learning, or whatever you do to manifest insult for whatever reason. D&D ended with the round table, I don't expect you or anyone else, Leon and Dan included, to ever get a real game going again. It is not practical, because people are to sensitive and just want to play grab ass.

      16 hours ago ·  ·  1 person

    • Cheryl Finch anywayyyy, i had fun playing with you guys, thank you for the experience. :)
      13 hours ago ·  ·  2 people

    • Alexander G. Holmes 
      Nahh people just dont want to play with someone who's going to be a dick about all the little stuff. Then its NO FUN. Plus we had a bunch of beginners who knew virtually nothing about it...of course nit picking is going to make them bored.

      The posting of this picture was so that everyone could have a laugh,yaay good times, blah blah blah....but you had to start the negativity with the "its improperly drawn" bullshit.

      Then comes " its not snooty. its called awareness. D&D is only as good as its DM and players. picking things apart is the fun, otherwise its just story telling and rolling dice." Dude if you can say that you were honestly not taking a direct stab at our group and how we, or I, ran things, I'd call you deluded.

      You also have this superiority complex over other people "I prefer a higher caliber of game play." Did you have your nose in the air while you typed that? Cuz it sounds like you did.

      You are just as much of a "lazy halfwit" as any of the people you played with, yet for some inexplicable reason you act like you are better than all of them. How can you expect anyone to want to play and include you with an attitude like this? Why do you always have to bring the negativity cloud into everything?

      3 hours ago ·  ·  1 person

    • Jarrett Toth dick about the little stuff, pussy about the big stuff, ill stay on this side of that equation. like I said, sorry for trying to get it all together. I don't have a D&D"group" so there's none to take a stab at.
      2 hours ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth and now that you mention it i would like my books back before your dad makes them disappear like the boffers.
      2 hours ago · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes If you stopped acting self righteous, and superior, people might not have the problems they do when dealing with you.
      about an hour ago · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes 
      And you can get the books anytime you want them...you have the number, you know where it is. You wanna berate other people for being lazy...jeez...


      And enough with the boffers, if you wanted them so badly we should've found a better place for them. They were in HIS space and he has every right to not have it cluttered up with our shit. So stop blaming my Dad. We invaded his space, ya know, the space that he pays for every month with a mortgage, that you don't contribute to. So he had every right to get rid of them. I would've preffered he asked first. But we did leave them there untouched for a LONG time.

      You need to stop being so quick to blame others for things that upset you.

      about an hour ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth where am I self righteous.
      about an hour ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth it is you who may be the pooper, or in danger of being the self righteous one.
      about an hour ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth sorry for recognizing shape too, and gravity.
      about an hour ago · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes 
      W/E dude, I guess you can't even see when you do it... here let me list some examples:


      "D&D is only as good as its DM and players"


      "Also, in a compelling and relevant story, there must be a semi attention paid to whats being done, or you end up with +10 dunce caps on."

      " I must apologize for bringing the idea to the table, collecting the books, organizing, and trying to get lazy halfwits to function together, knowing nothing but the usual would take place."

      " people are to sensitive and just want to play grab ass."

      You're self righteous because you put people down in order to make yourself look more right. Self, right, eous, get it? Now you've called us all lazy halfwits, said that I as DM, and the players, who were completely new to it were not of your caliber, and you've insulted my storytelling abilities by saying that I didn't pay attention to it. This just isn't the way you deal with friends.

      about an hour ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth I started off saying hey, look, the dice are floating. you charged in, rene starts going postal in the wal mart shirt isle. I calmly responded to the smattering, that yet continues. and yes, i stand by what I say up there. those are good points.
      about an hour ago · 

    • Alexander G. Holmes No see....Rene started off with a Joke...which you just HAD to pick apart. Dick move.
      about an hour ago · 

    • Jarrett Toth a gift with strings attached, thanks. if I can't appreciate it how I feel it is appreciable, then why bother. don't hand me loaded dice.
      about an hour ago · 

    • Rene Hawes That's quite enough, Jarrett. I'd appreciate it if you would refrain from perpetuating this negativity any further. I'm sorry that you think so poorly of us, but if that be the case than you can just stop talking to us please. We don't need your negativity in our lives.
      39 minutes ago · 

    • Rene Hawes No, really, just stop. NOW

     Yeah, that took up a lot of space, sorry...I'm not great w/formatting on this site...anyway...I think it's fairly apparent that Jarrett is, in fact, infuriating.  However, I also rose to the bait and ended up perpetuating the negativity that he introduced to things rather than squashing it.  I don't know if it's just because I know that he knows better than to treat people the way he does, or if it just makes me that much more mad that he acts like he's so high mighty b/c he's "Christian" now, and this is NOT the way Christians are supposed to act, but the little fucker gets me every time with this bullshit.  It just really makes me sad b/c acting like this will only bring more negativity into his life.  He is obviously a miserable bastard, and I really think he wants happiness, but he will never achieve it if he maintains this negative attitude.
     My "Hero Complex" is totally not helping me in this situation, b/c I feel like I just want to save the kid from himself.  That's why I try to show him that mirror, and make him see how he's acting.  But whenever I try I end up arguing, and whenever I argue I just make things worse.  He has this really severe problem w/women, and seems to particularly have problems w/me, presumably b/c I'm at least as intelligent and received a much better education than he did.  He really can't stand the fact that I'm 1. Not afraid to stand up to him 2. Able to continuously make coherent, well thought out arguments against whatever point he is trying to make.  Sometimes I wonder if he isn't so pissed off b/c somewhere deep down, he knows I'm right.  He must b/c whenever I argue w/him, rather than use facts or logic to try to prove a point, he resorts to making personal attacks against me and my friends and family.  
     After reading the new posts he and Alex had made to this convo today, then proceeding to cry about it for, like half an hour, then finally responding in an attempt to squash it...(there is one last comment from him up there that for some reason is no longer there, but in between the last 2 things I said he made some comment about how I just had to get the last word in) I finally realized there was nothing else I could do and unfriended him and blocked him.  I have spent so much time and energy fretting over how to help Jarrett be the great person that I know he is capable being, and it's all been such a waste of my efforts.  I finally realized that there is just nothing I can do, other than offer up a little prayer that whatever benevolent forces exist in this universe will try to guide him and show him how to be a happy and good person.  There is nothing more I can do.  I FEEL SO DEFEATED. 
     Somehow, I really thought there might be something I could do or say to fix this for him, whatever it is that's causing this pain he's feeling that's taking over his life.  Maybe that was arrogant of me.  All I can do now is offer this up to Eru and accept the fact that I have no power to change things for Jarrett.  I also have to accept that I can't have him be a part of my life if he is going to bring all this negativity into it.  Especially right now.  I need to remember that right now, my priority should be making this sweet, beautiful little baby that's growing inside me. :)  Still, I pray that he finds the way back to the light and sound of God and that whatever torment his Soul is enduring may be put to peace.  Remember, Jarrett, that no matter what, we're your friends, and we'll always love you, even as our tears fall.

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